Research Log: Page 69 · Big Blue Guide

Post #1361 — kcorcoran, Dec 18, 2023

Kidkaos said: Truth be told, i don’t need a cps1 kit, Punisher plays just fine with the cps2 kit Click to expand…

Hold up. So SOME cps1.5 (q-sound) games have been ported to the cps2 multi (punisher). I believe SF2 HF as well, but it uses the super street fighter 2 sound set. Also final fight AE (3 player hack). That does not mean the entire cps1 library work on the cps2 multi. Each game has to be converted. Broadly speaking, if you want 100% true to the orignal PBC you need to use the correct multi. Otherwise you’re blurring the lines between this and emulation.

kcorcoran said: My all black cabinet is a 3Koam for sure. Double width coin door. Just ot sure what else to look for on it.
Sides were painted black when I got it.
Odd part is when I peeled back the vinyl on the control panel box there was wood grain on the wood, so I guess 3KOAM was grabbing whatever they had around the shop.View attachment 710703 Click to expand…

Recessing for an IL joystick for a Big Blue?
I’m building a control panel from scratch for a Big Blue and planning to use an IL joystick. I’m going to use 3/4” cabinet-grade plywood, MDO, or MDF.
Now, I’m trying to figure out the dimensions to recess from the bottom of the control panel to accommodate the base of the joystick. What should be the depth of the cut from under the control panel? Meaning, how much plywood should I leave between the base and the part of the stick that appears above the surface of the control panel?

kcade said: Recessing for an IL joystick for a Big Blue?
I’m building a control panel from scratch for a Big Blue and planning to use an IL joystick. I’m going to use 3/4” cabinet-grade plywood, MDO, or MDF.
Now, I’m trying to figure out the dimensions to recess from the bottom of the control panel to accommodate the base of the joystick. What should be the depth of the cut from under the control panel? Meaning, how much plywood should I leave between the base and the part of the stick that appears above the surface of the control panel? Click to expand…

kcorcoran said: Since sticks mount direct to the metal cp youre not going to be able to get it at the same height of metal over plywood like the original. Best bet is to route half the wood so you have just over 1/4” wood to mount to. You wont have much wood to screw into though unless you do carriage bolts thru the top Click to expand…

Also, for this control panel style, does anyone have these measurements…
- from the joystick hole to the back of the control panel (the edge near the bezel)
- from the joystick hole to the front of the control panel (near where the player stands)
And I’m noticing that some control panels have the start button just above the three-button rows while others have the start button closer to the screen. Is there a specific standard? Do only 4-player panels with 2-player setup have the button closer to the screen? Thanks!

kcade said: Also, for this control panel style, does anyone have these measurements…
- from the joystick hole to the back of the control panel (the edge near the bezel)
- from the joystick hole to the front of the control panel (near where the player stands)
And I’m noticing that some control panels have the start button just above the three-button rows while others have the start button closer to the screen. Is there a specific standard? Do only 4-player panels with 2-player setup have the button closer to the screen? Thanks! Click to expand…

kcorcoran said: this is a trace of a SF2CE control panel blank repro I bought a while ago. I didn’t mark measurements but this is 1:1.
if you want to print at full size and trace onto your wood that’d work… or you could open in illustrator and take your measurements.
keep in mind, the top of this trace includes about an extra inch of metal to allow for the radius bend and the hem so it sits flat on the glass so best to measure form the bottom up, not the top down.
since you’re cutting yours from wood, you’ll need to angle the top edge of your wood so it fits close to the glass without a gap. (which is usually accounted for with the bent metal CP. Click to expand…

kcorcoran said: Wasn’t sure if you wanted a photo of the actual screw so I didn’t take it out. Lmk if you need that too.
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kcade said: Thanks for sharing these pictures! I’m trying to cut a new top panel, so I’m trying to understand what the top panel looks like without the marquee bracket. Here’s a render. Does the top panel end somewhere around the red line, green line, or somewhere else? I’m aiming to figure out how thick the bracket is, but I can’t find a source for it. Click to expand…

I’ve searched through this thread and apparently can’t find it.
In the post referenced here (https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/capcom-big-blue-guide.293609/page-18#post-3615202) what is the thickness of the particle board square that goes under the cardboard character bezel on a 1st gen big blue?
Was thinking 1/2”. Anybody have one that can give approx measurements?

damadczar said: I’ve searched through this thread and apparently can’t find it.
In the post referenced here (https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/capcom-big-blue-guide.293609/page-18#post-3615202) what is the thickness of the particle board square that goes under the cardboard character bezel on a 1st gen big blue?
Was thinking 1/2”. Anybody have one that can give approx measurements? Click to expand…

damadczar said: I’ve searched through this thread and apparently can’t find it.
In the post referenced here (https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/capcom-big-blue-guide.293609/page-18#post-3615202) what is the thickness of the particle board square that goes under the cardboard character bezel on a 1st gen big blue?
Was thinking 1/2”. Anybody have one that can give approx measurements? Click to expand…

Can anyone show me what keeps the gen 1 back door in the cabinet on the bottom? just an extra piece of wood? etc…?
A picture is worth 1000 words.

Serial/tag references:

gen 1 — Can anyone show me what keeps the gen 1 back door in the cabinet on the bottom? just an extra piece…

Just a wood cleat; give me a sec and I’ll find a pic
edit I lied. Just picture a small piece of wood stapled/glued to the inside of the door.